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Michael Vartan Returns to Alias Source: TV Guide, E! Online October 19, 2005 ABC's Alias could use a boost, as the show has dropped down to 70th place (7.2 million) for the week ended Sunday, per Nielsen Media Research. Fans have been very vocal about the studio's decision to move the Jennifer Garner spy series to Thursday nights, where it's up against such shows as Survivor, and the producers have heard complaints about the sudden departure of Michael Vartan, whose character Michael Vaughn was supposedly killed in the season five premiere. That boost might have come, with TV Guide's Ask Ausiello reporting that Vartan is back on the set: Anyway, yes, there is a major major development on the Vartan/Vaughn front: The deal officially closed late last week and Vartan returned to work on the Alias set yesterday. Please don't ask me who he's playing or how long his return engagement will last, because that I can't tell you. (Mostly 'cause, well, I don't know.) Now, if the studio would just move it back to Wednesdays after Lost, everyone would be happy. From: Alias Media
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Now, will he be ALIVE or will this be a fantasy/flashback?
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Exactly. I can only get my hopes up so much. I'm not going to let the BASTARDS break my heart again!
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Okay, here's some video of MV/JG shooting scenes or promotion. I can't see it being scenes, what with all that stuff going around in the background. It looks like they're doing promotion shots. Right? MV/JG video(When you get to the main page, click on video under the log in; it'll then send you to the video page and just find the MV/JG video. Right now it's the first one).
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Looks a little "dreamy" too me. It's got to be a dream Sydney is having. She's all in white...he's in white and khaki's...dream sequence.
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ROFL! I thought about the dream too. Like she imagines marrying Vaughn or something(they're both wearing rings, but those are seen in pictures and I can't figure out how to post those pictures; says something about bandwidth), but I wasn't sure... it just seemed kind of random, but maybe that was because we're getting a behind-the-scenes look...
But man.. if it's a dream, it sure better be good! LOL The idea that MV came back for a dream sequence ticks me off.
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Rings, huh? Totally has to be a dream...obviously can't be a flashback and as much as I'd die for it to be real...my heart just can't take thinking that and then having it be anything else. Know what I mean?
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LOL I know. If it's a dream, we'll be pissed; if it's real, we'll be pissed. The show really screwed up because either way, they're in a no-win situation. I mean WHY bring him back at all now, if he's still dead? That'll just make people even more pissed. Then WHY bring him back now if it's real, only to have to hin leave at the end of the episode?
Honestly, the point?!?
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That about sums it up. LOL
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That's what I thought! 
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One day I do hope we get a REAL explaination as to why any of this happened. It's not even just MV leaving; it's KILLING Vaughn off. WHY? WHY? WHY? I could have handled Vaughn leaving(okay, not really; I still would have been pissed), but I just don't understand the need to kill him off? That needs to be explained.
ABC/Alias/Bad Robot's handling of this from start to finish has been mind-boggling horrific. A preschool kid could have done better.
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That would be nice, but I don't see that happening. TPTB seem to already be covering their collective asses by trying to get MV back at least once before the end of the show. I highly doubt they are going to come out later and say..."yeah, we fu*ked up!" MV...he's too private of a person to release details...IMO. I don't see us getting any kind of "real" answer. I read somewhere today that TPTB actually had the nerve to say that they had no idea how popular and well loved MV/Vaughn was!  Have they been under a rock the past 4 years?
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Yeah, I don't see it either, but you never know. Maybe when E! True Hollywood(er, that is the name of the show, right?) does a show on Alias, we'll fnd something out? LOL Not that I think JG had anything to do with it, but I would like to know what compelled the writers to KILL off Vaughn. If Vaughn had simply gone missing or was kidnapped or was presumed dead, fine... but they KILLED him. I want to KNOW that. I don't need details as to why MV left 'cause we'll NEVER get the truth about that. You know... was JG involved or not? Did BA throw a hissy fit about his wife having make out scenes with her ex? Was MV uncomfortable at the prospect of playing daddy to BA's spawn? (Though I think the last one is pretty likely, LOL; I know I would). It's the KILLING of Vaughn that I have a problem with. Oh, here's pictures... in the last two pictures, you can clearly see RINGS. link
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You've got a point there...but like everyone else is saying...just because you die on Alias doesn't mean you die.  Francie came back...well, sorta. Will came back. Irina came back about twenty times.  But...there is just something about this one that seems permanent.  Granted, they did leave it open. You didn't see him in the casket. You didn't see him actually die. He coded and then dr's everywhere and then Sydney kissing him goodbye. Someone could of "killed" him after she was pushed out of the room. They did leave it open, but the tears streaming down my face were telling me otherwise. I've heard that MV wasn't happy after he and JG split and that he did want out then, but TPTB told him no...contract. And that he was good and happy now and this happened. That's totally gossip, but that's what I've heard. 
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I've heard that too, but I heard it wasn't because of the breakup(tension between him and JG), it was because BA/JG were so in his face about their relationship(BA showing up at the set, ect) and he was sick of being dragged into their little soap opera(every little article about BA/JG, he seemed to be mentioned and it was always stated that he was still hung up on her, which he wasn't). He wanted out because of that, but they said no and he/JG worked out their differences and were 'friends' again. Then JG got knocked up with the Spawn of Assfleck and the skeeve factor was so high he didn't exactly throw a fit when they decided to write Vaughn off. It wasn't his idea or anything, but it wasn't like he wanted to play daddy to the Spawn of Assfleck, which I can't say that I blame him for. I know I was skeeved at the thought of it, so I can imagine what he thought. Actually, I think MOST people were skeeved at the thought, especially since most viewers know too much about JG's personal life and it's hard to divorce the fact that she is carrying the Spawn of Assfleck and how he basically destroyed Alias. Blah.
Anyhoo... I don't think Vaughn is dead, but I honestly think the intent was that Vaughn was dead for real and he wouldn't be coming back. The fan reaction was so great, they changed things up. I think part of the reason we've yet to see Sydney truly mourn Vaughn is because they thought if the show glossed over it, the fans would too. I mean do you really think Sydney would be so blase over Vaughn's death? We've barely seen any emotion from Sydney. I know she's changed since the show premiered 5 years ago and I know she is affected by his death, but there still should be some EMOTION. Not Sydney telling everyone she's a Red Sox fan now. Yay! Except not. I mean it's sad when we CRY more than Sydney. I was bawling like a baby when he flatlined and she just stood there.
JJ does owe us an explaination for WHY they had Vaughn caught in a hail of gunfire and why they had him flatline. Why didn't they just have him kidnapped? Disappear? He doesn't need to go into detail about why they wrote Vaughn off because I think it's obvious(skeeve factor), but why they did it the way they did it and WHY they couldn't even give him the send off he deserved, instead it was rushed and just flat.
Yeah, okay... I'll shut up now. LOL
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Can't say that I'd blame him either for the whole JG/BA thing...if I was him and it was being thrown in my face like that...I'd probably take an out too. But for TPTB to kill him...far too final. I mean come on...it's Alias...it's JJ...there are far more creative ways to be written off a show that still leaves the possiblity of coming back. But TPTB obviously wanted him dead and had no intentions of having him come back in the first place because if they had they would of had some kind of deal with MV to come back for say three shows at the end or even two...something. They had jack! And then they start to see what gigantic idiots they were by killing him off and they have to scramble to cover their asses and try to make good. Unless MV comes back in the next eppy and is there until the end...they've F'd up royally in my book. As far as Sydney and her handling Vaughn's death...I'm mixed. I could see her be in a state of shock for some time about it...but you would think she would of lost it when she realized that Vaughn was not there to see their baby. No instead she has a "moment" and then goes to daddy and makes a mention of it. Right. And wtf was up with her showing his picture to Rachel?  What was that suppose to be? I want to see some real emotion from her soon because this is just ridiculous. I'm all for her finding Gordon Dean and killing him in a slow, torturous way to revenge Vaughn...or protect herself...however it needs to be explained. But I want something asap! I mean...come on! 
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The way it was done leads to such finality; I know they probably edited in a way that left things opened for interpertation because from what I gather there was no 'open to interpertation' when they filmed it; it was meant to be Final. Very. Final. Which just escapes me. I don't understand that, especially in the FINAL season. It makes no sense. If the intent was to bring Vaughn back, like the idiots on the show like to claim, WHY didn't they just have him kidnapped? Disappear? SOMETHING? You don't intend on bringing someone back when you basically have the executed ONSCREEN. The intent is to show there is NO intent to bring him back.
I think what BUGGED me most about Sydney's reaction is that she never talks about him. She had a moment with Jack, but that's it. She had her moment in the car, but that's it. Those were the ONLY true Vaughn/Sydney moments since he died. SHOW US THAT SYDNEY MISSES HIM! SHOW US THAT SYDNEY LOVES HIM! SHOW US SOMETHING, ANYTHING. I mean I don't even buy Sydney going on all these missions to bring down Dean at all. All she has left of Vaughn, apparently, is the baby she's carrying and she's willing to risk that? I don't think so. This was one of the reasons they had to kill Vaughn apparently because they needed a wya to keep Sydney out on missions and going after Vaughn's killer was supposed to be it, which makes NO SENSE because, as I said, Sydney wouldn't risk this baby. Idiots.
My bigger gripe about the scene with Rachel and showing her the picture is that she NEVER says anything about Vaughn; just that he was a great man. He was YOUR FIANCEE, the father of your baby... and, the stupid tramp played a role in his death and she's trying to play nice with her? Are you KIDDING ME? Even if Rachel believed she was doing a good thing, I would NEVER speak to her. Let alone try to be friendly. It just makes no sense to me.
MV is doing a movie in Australia, so he won't be back. At least until the finale.
At this point, I'd be happy with a montage. And, since I'm railing at Sydney's lack of anything... if MV's return in December is supposed to be a dream, WHY? WHY? WHY? I mean really. She has shown absolutely NO emotion towards his death at all, so why would she dream about marrying him? It's just like Vaughn proposing to Sydney. We never saw any lead up to it; we just all of a sudden got him talking about it and while I LOVED the scenes, I was left scratching my head, thinking how the hell did we get here?
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In 'Alias,' Death Is Never The End Author: Alan Stanley Blair Date: 10-25-2005 Source: SciFi Wire The following story contains spoilers for the current season of "Alias" on ABC. This season saw yet another re-tooling of the ABC spy-drama, only this time, it included the death of "Alias'" leading man Michael Vaughn, played by actor Michael Vartan. The death has been praised by some as a breath of new life into a stale series, however others view it as just another nail in the "Alias'" coffin. But according to TV Guide, we haven't seen the last of Michael Vaughn. Well, good news to all Vaughn fans as the listings magazine has confirmed the rumors circulating the web that the actor will be making a return to the show, and it will happen before the series takes its extended hiatus over Christmas due to Jennifer Garner's pregnancy. "The deal officially closed late last week, and Vartan returned to work on the 'Alias' set yesterday," TV Guide reported. "Please don't ask me who he's playing or how long his return engagement will last, because that I can't tell you. (Mostly 'cause, well, I don't know.)" But Vartan is not the only familiar face set to return to the series, now in it's fifth, and possibly final, season. David Anders, known to fans as The Insidious Mr. Sark, is also reported to be returning before the end of the year. Additionally, show producers are apparently still in talks to have Lena Olin reprise her role of Irina Derevko. Mia Maestro is also said to be in negotiations to return. "Alias" airs on ABC each Thursday night at 8 p.m. ET/PT. From: SyFy Portal
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