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That was totally off camera thing. Did you see the spoilers? Their making me nervous. Maybe, it's a good thing that they have sex and say that they don't want a relationship. Then, it could lead to some good angst and a PJ finale. Why get them back together so fast? This way, the writers can take their time. They've already had sex, so why not some ex-sex. I am being too optimistic. We will probably get a contrived DJ finale anyway.
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Jack: And as for him, what kind of creep marries someone they don't even love?
P: Well, look at him. Maybe the kind of guy who's given up on ever marrying someone they do love.
J: Yeah the kind of guy who's given up hope.
P: Sucks to be him, when you think about it.
Of course, what he really means is, sucks to be ME.
...They chuckle, do something manly, whatever. Then Pacey, like Lloyd Dobler checking up on Diane Court at the party, scans the room for Joey.
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15 is going to take forever to actually film though. If you want a new spoiler that I can give (w/out waiting for it to actually be filmed) it would be that Josh and Katie are the only actual cast members that appear in 15. That's right, the entire hour is Pacey and Joey. Every frame.
When was the last time they did that for Dawson and Joey? Oh. That's right. Never. Wheee.
And as for my mom flip flopping? Eh, she just stands on the stack, puts a knee on my desk and does her fax. She never really ventures into my office to do anything else. No need for a financial investment.
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So, 6x15 is all about P/J? Sweet!
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Hoydenish posted this on FF about 615:
The reason I keep saying DO P/J have sex? is because it REALLY isn't clear. Given the script never says it and they are fully clothed and going to sleep last we see them, it's a hard call. I'll post this then you can decide...
P/J get locked in a store overnight. They have to stay there once it's all shut down and locked up. They pass the time playing some boardgames, raiding the store, chatting. The reason I say no angst is because there doesn't appear to be any. They are totally being pals, hanging out, there does not appear to be any awkwardness between them or reservations (keep in mind this is based on dialogue and how something is acted can make the words appear totally different). This is also why I say that Pacey's ep. 14 comments, nor the ep. 14 kiss are never touched on and don't appear to be an issue.
She is with Pacey in this situation because she is helping him out. He needed a girl on his arm to pull something off (sort of similar to how Emma played his pseudo date in a previous episode for his work party). As the evening draws on, and they get tired and ready to go to sleep (note they actually steal pajamas from the store to sleep in), they end up sharing a kiss. They talk briefly and then the scene ends with them going to sleep, fully clothed, not making out, etc. Joey esentially tells Pacey that their kiss does not mean they are a couple/getting back together, but does acknowledge that she misses him sometimes. Basically they've left it wide open to speculate if it means they will get back together but will take it slow, or if it means Joey just kissed him for comfort/memories, etc. It's impossible to say from the scene. What is particularly difficult to determine is how Joey feels about Pacey. Nothing in the dialogue indicates she's harbouring the type of feelings for Pacey that he is for her. But nothing in the dialogue really indicates that she remembers his declaration of his feelings for her the previous ep. either. So it's impossible to say.
The next day they wake up, and an employee at the store sees them. He is who asks if they are a couple and Joey says "No...We just sleep together sometimes".
So until it is on film and all plays out, it's pretty hard to say if we are supposed to take that comment to mean they DID have sex the previous evening, or if she's pulling this guys chain. ie. Is she saying it to be glib, joking around, is she serious, or defensive or what? Are they still fully clothed when they awake? It's pretty open to interpretation if you ask me. Based on the dialogue I could make an argument that they didn't, just as easily as that they did, ya know?
The other thing that I think needs to be factored in is that they both appear totally fine and angst free and buddy buddy the next day as well. If they'd just had sex, would there be no angst? Or maybe there is no angst cause they already had sex? Who knows.
Not to mention, that ep. 16 then doesn't touch on any of the happenings in ep. 16. Would they not want to utilize the last ep of sweeps to show angsty P/J. Would it not be perfect to have Audrey and or Dawson find out in a sweeps ep to lead into the rest of the season? It's all so confusing.
Remember, how we see it on screen is different from how it is written. Hoydenish is a huge DJer. We know Pacey is still in love with Joey, so I am not going to worry.
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Btw, throwdawsoninthecreek, as Roxy said, Josh adlibs a line in 614 that will show much angst and many shippery people will like it...a lot.
It's about time. She's already adlibbed "I love you" and "my love." LOL
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The title I have for 15 is "Castaways." Gina Fattore wrote it, and they are filming it at a K-mart. But they won't be calling it K-mart, they will be calling the store Mega Lo Mart.
I know Gina is a well known PJer. She actually knows how to write Joey and Pacey. She gave us all those great season 3 eps.
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Yeah well-- this is the only way they can do it. Pacey has to realize he's still in love with Joey. Since he officially broke up with her. So he's going to have to be the one to get her back. 
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I don't think they are going to have sex. I think Joey was just being sarcastic. I heard they will be filming in two weeks. Josh is doing a movie and Katie is in Sundance. I can't wait to hear the Dawson and Joey fans when they see the PJ previews. I bet they will complain and say we never get a chance. They think us PJer's write for the show. If the writers don't care about Dawson and Joey, it's not my fault. JVDB wants less screentime, so blame him. I hope Josh shaves. I am not crazy about his new look. Sometimes, I like it better than others. It didn't bother me in the season premiere. This Wed, it was dreadful.
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WB released the next official episode description.
Wednesday, Feb 5 - "Clean and Sober"
PACEY AND JOEY PLAY SPIN THE BOTTLE - When Dawson (James Van Der Beek) visits Audrey (Busy Philipps) at rehab, he spots a big time producer (guest-star Alicia Coppola) and follows her into a therapy session. Meanwhile, Pacey (Joshua Jackson) throws a party to celebrate his new success and is surprised when Joey (Katie Holmes) lets loose during a spontaneous game of spin the bottle; Jen (Michele Williams) catches reformed alcoholic C.J. (Jensen Ackles) with a drink; and Jack (Kerr Smith) agrees to marry Emma (Megan Gray) so that she can get her green card. Michael Lange directed the episode written by Anna Fricke
It's in big bold letters. I guess the Wb finds it important. Don't worry, Emma will be saying sayonara.
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-This episode will air on February 12.
-This episode was written by Gina Fattore. (credit Roxy at FF)
-This episode was originally going to be titled "Bluelight Special" or "Hard Target." (credit Jason at dawsonscreek.com)
-This episode was orginally going to be directed by James Van Der Beek.
***THIS EPISODE WAS DIRECTED BY GREG PRANGE. (credit Roxy, courtesy of TWB)
-Josh and Katie are the only actual cast members that appear in this episode. The entire hour is Pacey and Joey. (credit Roxy at FF)
-This episode does not pick up where 614 leaves off. The P/J kiss from 614 is not mentioned. Joey may not remember. There seems to be no angst or awkwardness between them on either part. (credit hoydenish at FF)
-Pacey and Joey get locked in a store overnight. They have to stay there once it's shut down and locked up. They pass the time playing board games, raiding the store, and chatting. Later in the evening, they get tired. They steal some pajamas from the store and get ready to go to sleep. They end up sharing a kiss and talk briefly. Joey tells Pacey that their kiss does not mean they are getting back together, but admits that she misses him sometimes. The scene ends with them going to sleep, fully clothed, and not making out. The next day, they wake up, and an employee at the store sees them. He asks if they are a couple, and Joey says, "No... we just sleep together sometimes." (credit hoydenish at FF)
-Joey is with Pacey in this episode because she is helping him out. He needed a girl with him to pull something off (sort of like when he took Emma to his office party). (credit hoydenish at FF)
-This episode is filming at a K-Mart. However, it will be called a "Mega Lo Mart" on the show. (credit Roxy at FF)
***THE STORE IS BEING CALLED K-MART, RATHER THAN MEGA LO MART. (credit Roxy, courtesy of TWB)
***JOEY IS HELPING PACEY OUT BY BEING HIS DATE AT A PARTY. PACEY TELLS A RANDOM CHICK THAT JOEY IS HIS SISTER. THE FOLLOWING IS A SNIPPET OF DIALOGUE BETWEEN P/J:
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JOEY: ...Unless you take me home now -- as in right now -- I think Miss World over there is going to be a little turned off when your sister leans over and gives you the tongue-kissing of your life.
PACEY: Five minutes. We leave in five minutes.
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***PACEY AND JOEY LEAVE THE PARTY. HE NEEDS TO BUY CONDOMS BECAUSE HE SET UP A DATE IN AN HOUR WITH SOME RANDOM CHICK (MISS WORLD) AT THE PARTY. JOEY DOESN'T KNOW THIS, AND PACEY TELLS HER HE NEEDS LAUNDRY DETERGENT. JOEY HAS TO USE THE BATHROOM, AND WHILE SHE'S DOING THAT, THEY GET LOCKED IN. THE STORE IS BEING CALLED K-MART, RATHER THAN MEGA LO MART. (credit Roxy, courtesy of TWB)
***THE FOLLOWING IS A SNIPPET OF DIALOGUE BETWEEN P/J IN THE CAR ON THE WAY TO THE STORE:
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JOEY: What the hell is happening to my ass right now?
PACEY: Seat warmer. Comes standard on all your finer German-engineered automobiles.
JOEY: Well, my lower half thanks you for moving so far up the socioeconomic ladder. ...
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***THEY ARGUE WITH THE POLICE FROM A PAY PHONE IN THE BREAKROOM. JOEY ASKS FOR PACEY'S COAT BECAUSE SHE'S COLD. HE GIVES IT TO HER, AND SHE LOOKS FOR GLOVES. SHE FINDS THE CONDOMS...
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JOEY: Are these yours?
PACEY: Those?
JOEY: Yes. These prophylactics I found in your pocket.
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***JOEY REALIZES THAT THEY ACTUALLY STOPPED FOR CONDOMS. THEY START FIGHTING ABOUT SEX. PACEY DOESN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT SEX WITH JOEY. JOEY WANTS TO KNOW WHY. SHE PRESSES THE ISSUE, AND THINGS GET HEATED. THE FIGHT TURNS ONTO THEM. THIS SCENE TAKES AN ENTIRE ACT. THE FOLLOWING ARE SNIPPETS FROM THE SCRIPT DURING THIS ACT WHEN THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE "SECRET TO THEIR FRIENDSHIP":
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PACEY: The secret is that we do not talk about sex. I may be having it. You may be ... thinking about having it but since we don't talk about it, there's no awkwardness. And since there's no awkwardness, the friendship remains intact. See? Problem solved before it's even started
JOEY: But if we're friends, why would there be any awkwardness in the first place?
PACEY: Because we used to be more than friends.
Later; same scene...
JOEY: So as far as you're concerned I slept with you then took myself in and got revirginized.
PACEY: In my mind, yes.
JOEY: So in your mind I never slept with Eddie or with Dawso--
PACEY: --My god. Woman. What are you trying to do? Kill me?
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JOEY: So basically what you're saying is that the only way you and I can continue to be friends is if we lie to each other about our sex lives? If we take this whole big giant aspect of our lives and pretend it doesn't exist?
PACEY: Well, it always worked for you and Dawson.
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***FROM THERE, THEY GO ON TO BROWSE THE STORE ON THEIR OWN. THE POLICE TELL THEM TO SIT TIGHT UNTIL MORNING. PACEY CALLS A TRUCE WITH JOEY IN A BIG WAY. (credit Roxy, courtesy of TWB)
***THEY ONLY PLAY BOARD GAMES FOR A LITTLE WHILE. DURING THAT TIME, THEY ARE DISCUSSING HAPPINESS WITH LIFE. JOEY AND PACEY TAKE TURNS PICKING WHAT TO DO. ON JOEY'S TURN, SHE PICKS THE DVD OF A BOOK SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO READ THAT NIGHT, AND THEY WATCH IT. AFTER THE MOVIE, IT'S PACEY'S TURN TO PICK SOMETHING. HE GOES TO THE MUSIC DEPARTMENT AND MOVES ALL THE BINS IN THE MUSIC SECTION. THE FOLLOWING SCREEN DIRECTION DESCRIBES THE SETTING HE CREATES:
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Pacey and Joey are ballroom dancing to whatever SONG we heard in the teaser. To make this moment look as magical as possible all the usual candles and twinkle lights will be called in for duty, plus lava lanps, camp lanterns, flashlights, bug zappers. Basically any and all sources of light one might concievably find for sale in a Kmart.
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JOEY: Why'd we take ballroom dancing anyway?
PACEY: No idea.
JOEY: We probably should have done this earlier tonight when we were dressed for it.
PACEY: Eh, live and learn.
They execute some other impressive move. End up cheek to cheek. They dance that way for a beat. Then:
JOEY: So did we actually do this at the prom?
PACEY: Dance? I have no idea. I remember nothing.
JOEY: Pacey...
PACEY: No, it's true. My mind is a blank slate. Have we met?
JOEY: Yes, we have.
PACEY: We have?
Uh-oh. on second thought. Maybe this cheek-to-cheek thing wasn't such a good idea. Because it's bringing back a lot of long-dead feelings...
JOEY: Yes, we have. But it was a very long, long, long, long time ago.
With each adjective they get closer and closer. And then it happens. A truly magical, truly mutual kiss. And we.. fade out.
End of act three.
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***WE FADE BACK IN WHEN THEY BREAK APART. PACEY LAYS IT ON THE LINE AND TELLS HER HOW HE FEELS. JOEY ASKS FOR ONE DAY TO SLEEP ON IT. (credit Roxy, courtesy of TWB)
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PACEY: I know that you are one of the few, the very few - if not the only thing in my life ever to fully and completely make sense.
A beat. Joey takes this in. It's not the kind of compliment you get every day.
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***JOEY IS HAPPY THAT PACEY LAYS IT ALL OUT. (credit Roxy, courtesy of TWB)
***WE DON'T SEE THEM STEAL PAJAMAS, IT JUST CUTS TO JOEY FLUFFING A PILLOW. THEY CHANGED THEIR CLOTHES AWHILE AGO. PACEY IS SHAVING, BUT JOEY DOESN'T KNOW HE IS. THE FOLLOWING IS SCREEN DIRECTION REGARDING PACEY SHAVING HIS GOATEE:
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She smiles. There it is again. His face. By special request.
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PACEY: --If the next words out of your mouth are "take out the garbage," I will officially have a preview of what it would be like to be married to you.
JOEY: And?
PACEY: And it isn't pretty.
JOEY: What I was going to say was did you know.
PACEY: Know what?
JOEY: That this was a dream come true.
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***THE GO ON TO TALK ABOUT THEIR ENTIRE RELATIONSHIP AND ONE OF JOEY'S FANTASIES INVOLVING TRUE LOVE. THE SCENE IS KIND OF LONG. THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT BEING TOGETHER AGAIN, AND JOEY MENTIONS SOMETHING FOR THE "PRO" COLUMN:
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PACEY: Yeah, what's that?
She gets up, goes over to his bed, gets under the covers.
JOEY: This.
She plants a kiss on him. They kiss for a while, and when they break apart Joey tries to clear up any confusion she may have caused.
JOEY: This doesn't mean what you think it means.
PACEY: What does it mean?
JOEY: It means ... I'm cold. And I'm still thinking about it. And I miss you.
PACEY: I miss you, too.
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CASHIER: ... And your total comes to $98.15.
Pacey quickly hands over his credit card.
JOEY: I can pay you back, you know. I just left my purse in the--
PACEY: --That's okay. I've got it. Seems reasonable for a dream come true.
Joey smiles.
Later; same scene...
JOEY: ... I will be writing a letter to your home office about that.
CASHIER: You will?
JOEY: Yes. Because this store ... (taking a last look around) ... is perfect just the way it is. Don't ever change it.
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-Pacey and Joey may have sex in this episode. However, nowhere in the script does it actually say that they have sex. (credit hoydenish at FF)
***THE OUTLINE, WORKING (WHITE) DRAFT, AND BLUE DRAFT ALL HAD PACEY AND JOEY HAVING SEX (IT WAS MADE CLEAR AT THE VERY END OF THE EPISODE), BUT THE FINAL (PINK) DRAFT DOES NOT. THEY DO NOT HAVE SEX. (credit Roxy, courtesy of TWB)
He is going to shave. I am just waiting for the previews
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She is initiating the kissing and wants to sleep in his bed with him. It doesn't look one sided to me. There's even some jealous Joey. Sweeps can't come fast enough. He is going to shave. I think it's for her. I hope he is wearing a wifebeater. Bring it on.
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My god. Woman. What are you trying to do? Kill me?
 This eppy looks like it's a P/J dream starting to come true! I will be watching this one!
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WB released the next official episode description.
Wednesday, Feb 12 -"Castways"
JOEY AND PACEY SPEND THE NIGHT TOGETHER IN A
KMART - On the way home from a business party, Pacey
(Joshua Jackson) and Joey (Katie Holmes) make an
unexpected stop at a Kmart, miss closing and spend the entire night locked up together. Wandering around the deserted store, the former lovers play in the toy department, dance in the electronics department and talk about life, love and their history together. The night ends with a kiss that leaves them wondering where they go from here. Greg Prange directed the
episode written by Gina Fattore
I don't see any closure. Dream on DJer's. It's not going anywhere. I am not going to get my hopes up. For them to end the show without the hellmates, would be a shock. For them to end it with Pacey and Joey together would be a dream come true. I am not going to delude myself. I will enjoy what we are getting.
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Exactly. Pacey makes it pretty clear how he feels about Joey in 615. Joey's the one who needs to think about it but she does feel something according to the script. Old feelings are stirred. Have no fear. 614 and 615 is really REALLY good stuff.
EXACTLY! Dude! There's no D/Jo! It's been a great year for everyone!
I have a feeling, but this is totally a spec, that since Anna is having a go at writing/co-writing the finale that we may get P/Jo angst...or a P/Jo beginning. Everything she's done this year has shown her to be a P/Jo supporter. Hopefully, she won't turn on us.
Guys, things still look good. We're not throwing in the towel yet. Something is being set up we just have to sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. (I know..."Enjoy DC" is a contradiction but seriously, I am enjoying what I'm reading!)
*still waiting for ALIAS*
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Okay. Spoiler Change!
Need to let you know that full pink for 615 came out on 1-14-03, and I just now learned (and read) full yellow that came out on 1-20-03.
Now mind you, EVERYTHING stays the same, except there is no dancing. Instead, Pacey chooses to have Joey shave his gotee off of him. They still kiss and all the awesome stuff right after the "completely mutual, completely magical" kiss, which happens right after she's done shaving him, all remains the same. Heee.
I didn't think it would be possible, but this scene is BETTER than dancing. Wheeeeeeeee!
As far as 516 and 517 you're going to get more tonight, and believe me P/Jers you're gonna luv it. Hahahaha.
Dawson and Joey? So. Over.
I don't know about the DJ thing. She's been right so far, so who knows.
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From Becky: Dawson's news, please! You stuck with Felicity to its end--don't leave us DC fans out to dry, because I, for one, still care!
Yes, let us observe a moment a silence for the delicious goodness (that one time ago, in a land far, far away, was) Dawson's Creek. No, honestly, you know I have a soft spot in my heart for the show. But all good things must come to an end! As for spoilers, I've got something that will make you Pacey and Joey fans go ape-dookie. Joey agree to be Pacey's "non-date" for his company's formal soiree. Always one to cover his bases, Pacey makes a pre-booty call to another lucky lady and arranges to meet up after the shindig for a little sumpin' sumpin'. (Gag, gag.) But it's not Booty Call Babe he ends up with when he and Joey go to the store to buy condoms. Instead, drumroll please...Pacey and Joey end up in the throes of a wild make-out session. Ring-a-ding-ding, hear the P'n'J fans sing!
I can't believe it will be next week. Here's more.
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OMG. OMG. OMG. OMG.
616...617... It just gets better. And better. And better.
*high fives TWB*
*high fives all around*
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Pacey: Please forgive my assistant's behavior. She's new at this and ...
Joey crosses her legs. Pacey can't help but enjoy that.
Pacey: ... very bad.
Joey: What was that last part? Something moronic followed by something inane?
They stare at each other for another moment, then LEAP AT EACH OTHER OVER THE DESK, KISSING WILDLY. Joey's half up on the desk, things are falling everywhere. It's all very messy and ridiculous, but quite sexy all the same. Just as it's getting PLEASINGLY HOT AND HEAVY, Rich walks in.
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